Something to think about from soc.religion.unitarian-univ... ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Newsgroups: soc.religion.unitarian-univ From: lusky@sol.hc.ti.com (Steve Lusky) Subject: Re: Christ-o-phobia kudut@ritz.mordor.com writes: > ... But we must tolerate > the non-intrusive celebrations of others. How about tolerating those who choose to be less tolerant? Isn't that important as well? Tolerate intolerance?! Consider these quotes from "Equality, Tolerance and Loyalty," Andrew R. Cecil, the University of Texas Press, 1990. Cecil leads a yearly lecture series on morals at the Univ. of Texas at Dallas. These quotes are some that I prepared for a "salon", a discussion group of about a dozen associated with DNUC, a local UU church. The topic a year ago was on Separation of Church and State: "The term 'tolerance' presupposes opposition or objection to a certain idea, behavior, or thing, and its ultimate acceptance. It reflects a self-restraint that permits us to reconcile our disapproval of certain opinions and practices with our acceptance of the right of others to pursue them. Such acceptance is not a sign of weakness. It suggests an attitude of putting up with people, not of giving in to them." "Tolerance should not be confused with indifference. ... Lack of concern, for instance, whether a group claiming to be a religious sect or its leaders are engaged in fraudulent acitivites or are worshiping according to the beliefs of its members, is not tolerance but a socially harmful attitude." "Tolerance of intolerance aggravates intolerance." "Intolerance of intolerance safeguards tolerance." "The choice is not between tolerance and order. It is between tolerance with order and anarchy without order." "History demonstrates that tolerance of intolerance is suicidal for civil liberties and human rights." According to Voltaire "discord is the great evil of the human species, and toleration is the only remedy." "John Locke 'proclaimed toleration as the chief characteristic mark of the Church.' He, like Voltaire, believed that freedom of religion is a natural right that neither any single person, nor churches, nor governments have any just title to invade. ... Locke appealed to the conscience of those who upon pretense of religion persecute, destroy, starve, and maim men with corporal punishment to make them Christians and procure their salvation." "The civil interests include life, liberty, and property. The civil power of the government is confined to the care of promoting the 'civil interests,' and it cannot and ought not in any manner be extended to the salvation of souls. ... Religious tolerance, stated Locke, does not permit the government to prejudice any man in the enjoyment of his civil rights because of his religion."